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New Hyatt Joie de Vivre Hotels – 14 Properties with Category Listings and More

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Sunset at Carmel Valley Ranch, a Joie de Vivre Hotel, now Hyatt Category 6
[featured image courtesy Carmel Valley Ranch]

As of today (5/15/2019), hotels from the Joie de Vivre brand are now fully bookable through Hyatt. You can book paid rates or make award reservations using World of Hyatt points.

Joie de Vivre (JdV) is a collection of mid- to higher-end hotels in the United States. The majority of JdV hotels are in California. At this time, 14 JdV hotels are participating in World of Hyatt, with a 15th hotel coming in late 2019.

Joie de Vivre Hotels by Location and World of Hyatt Category

We compiled this handy chart of JdV hotels, listed by their location and World of Hyatt category:

As you can see, the properties range from Category 2 (the Hotel Revival in Baltimore) up to Category 6 (Carmel Valley Ranch in Carmel, California). The number of JdV hotels in each Hyatt category is:

  • Category 2 = 1 hotel
  • Category 3 = 4 hotels
  • Category 4 = 4 hotels
  • Category 5 = 4 hotels
  • Category 6 = 1 hotel

And as a reminder, it takes the following number of Hyatt points to book an award night at each of these categories:

  • Category 2 = 8,000 points
  • Category 3 = 12,000 points
  • Category 4 = 15,000 points
  • Category 5 = 20,000 points
  • Category 6 = 25,000 points

Importantly, the 9 JdV hotels that have been assigned to Categories 2, 3 and 4 can be booked with Hyatt’s Category 1-4 Free Night Certificates.

The JdV List Changed Since It Was First Announced – What Happened?

When we originally reported on Hyatt’s integration of the former Two Roads hotels (JdV and 3 other brands – Thompson Hotels, Destination Hotels, and Alila), the JdV website listed 18 properties. Now, only 14 are participating in World of Hyatt, with a 15th to come online in late 2019. What happened?

It turns out that 4 of the JdV properties are not participating in World of Hyatt. It appears that The Marker in San Francisco is no longer part of JdV at all, as it’s not listed on the JdV website as of today (Wed 5/15/19; it was there just yesterday). Three other JdV properties are not participating in World of Hyatt (at least not at this time):

  • Galleria Park Hotel, San Francisco
  • Hotel Carlton, San Francisco
  • Hotel Vitale, San Francisco

On the plus side, Hyatt is listing 1 additional property under the JdV brand (which does not show up on the JdV website) – the Chicago Athletic Association. This looks like a nice and well-located property on Michigan Avenue, across from Millennium Park.

Guestroom, Chicago Athletic Association [image courtesy Chicago Athletic Association]

Spotlight JdV Hotel – Carmel Valley Ranch

Carmel Valley Ranch appears to be the most aspirational JdV property. It’s located in the California Central Coast wine country, near the famed coastal town of Carmel and the Santa Lucia Mountains. According to its website, the Carmel Valley Ranch has been voted the number 1 resort in Northern California by Condé Nast Traveler. Resort activities include golf, tennis, and treatments at the resort’s 10,000+ square foot spa.

We’ve heard of this hotel before but never had the good fortune to stay there. Its addition to World of Hyatt places it squarely on our list of places we’d definitely like to visit as soon as we can.

Standard rooms, bookable for 25,000 Hyatt points, are the Santa Lucia Suites with a king bed. They are large, 650 square feet, and each of these suites has a private deck with a fireplace. This is certainly no ordinary “standard” points room.

Carmel Valley Ranch, Santa Lucia Suite [image courtesy Carmel Valley Ranch]

We took a quick sampling of June rates at Carmel Valley Ranch. Some nights are completely sold out, or standard Santa Lucia Suites are not available. For other nights, it’s a mixed bag as to whether points reservations are a good deal (assuming our baseline value of 1.5 cents per Hyatt point). We saw some Sunday nights with promotional rates as low as $250/night, so those wouldn’t be a great deal on points. Other nights were in the mid- to high-300’s, and on those nights, it would pretty much be a toss-up as to whether paid rates or award nights would be better. And finally, there were some nights where paid rates were in the $500-600 range, in which case using Hyatt points would definitely be the way to go!

As always, check before you book to see what would be best for your dates – but importantly, it does appear that there are dates – presumably the most popular and desirable dates – where using Hyatt points would be a great deal.

Reminder About the Current Hyatt Promotion for New Brands Including JdV

As we wrote back in late March, Hyatt has a promotion with respect to its 4 new brands – JdV, Thompson, Alila and Destination Hotels. For full details, read our article here:

Basics of this promotion are:

  • Earn 2,000 bonus Hyatt points for your first stay at a participating hotel in each of the four new brands
  • Earn a Category 1-4 Free Night Certificate (expires after 180 days) by making at least one stay at a hotel in each of the four new brands
  • Promotion runs through December 31, 2019
  • For each brand, the promotion starts on its World of Hyatt integration date
  • Paid rates and points award redemptions both qualify for the promotion
  • No registration is required

Also, note that stays at these newly-integrated properties such as JdV also qualify for regular Hyatt points earning and other active promotions. Unfortunately, Hyatt’s current chain-wide promotion ends today, but we’re hoping to see a new one soon. Hyatt has an ongoing promotion where you can earn a Category 1-4 Free Night Award if you stay at 5 different Hyatt brands – and the recent integration of JdV and Thompson gives you 2 new brands to choose from, with 2 more to come later this year when Alila and Destination Hotels come on board.

We hope you’ve enjoyed this report on the new Hyatt Joie de Vivre hotels, and especially our spotlight on Carmel Valley Ranch. We’ve been very excited about Hyatt’s acquisition of Two Roads, which is expanding Hyatt’s footprint and bringing some nice new properties on board. And now, we’re even more excited to have good new options like Carmel Valley Ranch and the Chicago Athletic Association where we can use our stash of Hyatt points (and Ultimate Rewards points if we transfer them to Hyatt)!

What do you think of the new JdV properties? Any you would particularly recommend (or recommend to stay away from)? Please share with us and other Middle Age Miles readers in the Comments!

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6 thoughts on “New Hyatt Joie de Vivre Hotels – 14 Properties with Category Listings and More

  1. Grant

    Great to see a category 4 hotel in SF! That is on my list of hotels to stay at in SF. I will use a free night certificate to stay there in the near future 🙂

    1. Craig at Middle Age Miles Post author

      Hey Grant – Thanks for the comment. Hotel Del Sol in SF is a very colorful and interesting-looking place. I must have driven past its location dozens of times on my way out of the City to cross the Golden Gate Bridge. Looks like it’s reasonable walking distance to Marina Green and Fort Mason and verrrrrry long-walkable to Pier 39. I can’t tell if the place is nice or not from its website, so I’m anxiously anticipating your review! ~Craig

      1. Grant

        Yes, I have driven by it many times as well driving along lombard street. The area it is in has lots of old hotels/motels, so I will set me expectations low. I’m hoping the rooms have a lot of charm. It’s a short lyft/uber ride to most places in SF 🙂

        1. Craig at Middle Age Miles Post author

          That squares well with my memories of the area. I like your expectation-setting philosophy 🙂 And I’ve always wanted to stop and eat at Mel’s Drive-In but haven’t ever done it!

          1. Grant

            I’ve been to a Mel’s before, not that specific one, but they are decent diners, like a Ruby’s.

            Happy to share the articles i find interesting 🙂

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